TLDR:
Windows 11 v24H2 and beyond will have Recall installed on every system. Attempting to remove Recall will now break some file explorer features such as tabs.

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Original Github Issue

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    12 hours ago

    I remember them doing this with Internet Explorer back in the 90s.

    “We can’t remove this thing we don’t want to remove! Look! It’s hastily integrated with the OS! We can’t remove it ever!”

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    12 hours ago

    Explorer has had so many dependencies attached to it that if even one of them sneezes, the entire desktop environment crashes and has to restart.

    Actually insane when you think about it. Why the hell is a file explorer the root process of the desktop???

    I’ve only ever forced stopped thunar once and it was because I was messing with some thumbnail settings. Naturally the rest of my system worked as normal, as well as the other thunar windows open lol.

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    7 hours ago

    Windows Debloat Tool:

    https://github.com/LeDragoX/Win-Debloat-Tools

    I run this on any new Win install. I also suggest Portmaster so you know where your data is going (I use it on Linux too!)

    https://safing.io/

    However, if you can, it is really worth switching to Linux. Linux is built as a tool by the people using the tool. Windows is making a product. Enough said.

    If people would like to “try Linux before you buy,” check out DistroSea. It spins up a virtual machine of whatever distro and flavour you choose to try.

    https://distrosea.com/

    There are a surprising and growing number of Linux compatible tools. Software is usually why people have a hard time switching. If you’re dependent on Photoshop/Adobe, check out:

    https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve

    Gamers should check out:

    https://www.protondb.com/

    This site shows how well games run on Proton (compatibility tool) and people offer solutions to get them running if there’s any snags.

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    11 hours ago

    THIS IS WHY I AM STILL ON WINDOWS 10 AND DUALBOOTING LINUX

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    For years… well pretty much since I had a PC, I had a Windows partition. Why? Well because I (sadly) paid for the damn thing (damn OEM deals). Plus, I admit, sometimes they were things that only ran on Windows.

    For few years now though, everything, literally, from the latest tech gadget to playing games to VR, works on Linux.

    Few weeks ago I deleted the Windows partition. I didn’t have to. I didn’t boot on it for months. It didn’t affect me.

    Still, I now feel … safer, more relaxed, coherent.

    When I see shit like that, I feel even better!

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      Yea about a year ago I switched entirely over to Linux. I am a system engineer so I have to deal with windows at work all the time but on my computer, I feel calm. Like I don’t have to worry about my operating system. Windows is getting in the way more than it’s helping 99% of the time now.

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      11 hours ago

      I have windows on another physical disk and I plan to delete my windows partition in 2025 and start a software raid 0 configuration, sadly linux is not yet ready.

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      16 hours ago

      That’s my situation, except I haven’t deleted my partition yet, mostly because it sits on a separate physical disk. Maybe one day…

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        Yes, I even play VR Windows games on Linux., the latest one released just weeks ago being Subside.

        I’m using a Valve Index but with ALVR even standalone HMDs, e.g. (sadly from Meta) the cheap Quests line. You can find a lot more details on https://lvra.gitlab.io

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        21 hours ago

        It was mostly working 2 years ago when I tried it last. I just had some weird frame dropping issues at the time that I can only imagine were fixed by now. This post is making me want to try VR again on my linux install

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        21 hours ago

        SteamVR and ALVR are the only ones that I’ve gotten to work, no dice on standalone DCS though which was the whole reason I bought the damn headset a couple years ago

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          I tried running the standalone, ran some script from Lutris but ended up with a broken wine config. Hopefully we can at least get that working without VR at some point.

          It’s the chicken and the egg problem, and most companies choose to be the chicken

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      21 hours ago

      The best windows debloater is delete system32 and install Linux,.

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      21 hours ago

      Even Windows exes work on Linux now. It took me some time and learning but I got Wine to work with some program from my walkie talkie’s manufacturer and it involves serial programming over USB.

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        11 hours ago

        Indeed but I very rarely, if ever need it except for some games. Usually there are FLOSS equivalent of most software. They are sometimes worst but often just as good and, obviously, they can be modified. So Wine and Proton are amazing but hopefully needed less and less.

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    22 hours ago

    So… how does this exist in corporate environments where PCI DSS is necessary? Is the government also going to have to deal with fallout from this?

    I wonder if there will ever be a point where legislation dictates features from an os vendor… we lost control of our hardware when they started forcing updates. I’m sure someone will hack a DLL or something to allow explorer to run but kill this component… But should we really need to hack our systems to protect ourselves from spying?

    Inb4 Linux - I ran Slackware in the early 90s, and my server still runs a deb based distro… but when I want to play Forza, I’m pretty limited with my choices, etc.

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    21 hours ago

    So, I just bought a new laptop. It came with Windows 11. But anyways, I’m writing this comment from a freshly installed Bazzite Linux OS.

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    21 hours ago

    As much as I would love this to kick MS in the backside, it won’t. The public at large has no idea what this is or why it’s bad and evil. They will buy a computer, it will come with Windows, and they’ll use it like they always have. Companies and Govts will gripe initially, but give in because their ancient VB enterprise apps only run on Windows.