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    Sucks so hard that it’s the only porn site in the world and that there is absolutely no other way to get your hands in porn, now. Oh boy oh boy, what are they going to do now to get off? I lean, priests there have their choir boys but the common Joe on the block?

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      The point is that the individual states are requiring government issued photo ids to view pornography, and pornhub is instead blocking the states rather than giving up people’s right for privacy.

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      They want them to breed.

      They think blocking porn sites one by one is going to stop guys from getting access to porn. Haven’t they heard of bit torrent? tor? proxies and vpns? What are they going to do about foreign sites and sites that have mixed content like reddit?

      Ridiculous law.

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    Speaking of which, can anyone please tell me why XHamster now requires a Virgina ID to visit the website, even though I live nowhere near that shithole?

    1. Why does it have to be a Virginia ID specifically?
    2. How the hell am I going to get a Virginia ID from out of state?
    3. Why would anyone give a porn site their ID to begin with? That’s a major invasion of privacy.
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      1. It thinks your connection comes from Virginia for some reason. Specifically, it thinks your public IP geomaps there. You can use https://whatismyipaddress.com/ to see where their database would pin it.
      2. You can’t
      3. They really shouldn’t. But the sites are asking for them because they are required, by law. The alternative is to block those connections, as PornHub decided to do.

      Such laws now exist in Florida, South Carolina, Alabama, Arkansas, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Texas, Utah, and Virginia.

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      Are you using iCloud Relay or a similar service? Your IP is set to or is being routed through Virginia.

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        No but I use a 3rd party DNS, which might have something to do with it, now that you mention it.

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          DNS translates a domain name “example.com” to an ip address pointing to the server. It tells your browser how to reach the server. It is unlikely the reason.

          the common way to detect your location is by checking your ip address. Usually there is a database (i.e. maxmind) that keeps a record of which ip address subnet belongs to which location.

          you can do a check with a reverse ip geolocation lookup tool to verify this.

          so either:

          • the company haven’t updated their database yet
          • your IP range was recently bought or rotated by your isp
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        Might be their ISP. I know mine routes my stuff through some datacenter somewhere else in my country if I use ipv4 (probably because they don’t have enough ipv4 addresses for everyone). Which I do, because their IPv6 protocol shits the bed if I actually use the bandwidth I’m paying for 🙄

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      One VPN I use has servers in most us states.

      Auto connected to a mandatory ID state and a porn site demanded I take a picture of my id.

      (Edit: I have it set to auto connect to fastest on start. I can change location and have 100 free servers to chose in the US. More in Japan and Netherlands. ProtonVPN)

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        I set up ProtonVPN on my wifi as a separate SSID. I had to select a specific server, so I picked one that’s relatively close (for better latency) and doesn’t have the same restrictions my state has. It’s easy to switch, I just need to go tweak the settings in my router.

        If my kids ever need to submit ID for something (e.g. social media), I’ll hook them up w/ the VPN to bypass our draconian laws. The government has no place on the internet, and I will circumvent their stupid policies. If I don’t trust my kids on the internet, I’m not going to look to the government to protect them, I’ll just take away their internet privileges.

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          It doesn’t specify the state. Only us server #. I guess I could look it up, but I just change servers.

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            Sounds like a shit VPN to me. I can select a region (US East) or individual states with PIA and basically the same with Surfshark.

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              I can select one of 100 servers . I could check geoip. Or write a shell script to do that. Anyway…

              It’s also free.

              It’s also one of the best.

              Proton.

              I use the app. I could do all the wireguard fancy stuff, but I won’t.

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                At least the desktop app of proton shows you the state or even city where the server is located. For Germany I can even choose between Frankfurt and Berlin for example. I know that for us servers I was able to specifically choose New York.

                Edit: In the android app you can go to countries then tap the three dots next to united states and select a state to connect to.

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    Indiana isn’t the south, but might as well be. Oh well, at least I have a vpn. (Queue pornhub intro)

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      Of all porn sites, porn hub sucks the hardest, and i don’t mean the right kind of sucking. There are way better sites for that

      These days on pornhub, search for a category and you get 200 clips that have nothing to do with said search terms, but which apparently get them a lot of money

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        It basically already is because you know most people are just going to lookup a free VPN who has every motive to obtain as much information as possible about the user and sell it.

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          I saw something like this happen (major social media gor blocked). Can confirm that those sketchy free VPNs are now on seemingly every phone and it is worrying as hell :/ At least some people use charity censorship evasion projects instead.

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        Yeah, all the people will flock to free VPNs. They’ll google “how to get around blocked porn” and the free VPNs will be at the top of the list. And the issue with free VPNs is that if you’re not the customer, you’re the product being sold.

        Though it would be a great way to catch a bunch of conservative politicians cranking it to gay porn. Because if they’re using those free VPNs, (because they’re all +70 years old and have no idea how to actually stay safe online,) then their data can be bought.

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      Proton or Mullvad are the two go-tos.

      Private Internet Access used to be trusted (and still has good service, fwiw) but they were bought out by a company that was caught stuffing adware into their programs… So people have been hesitant to actually recommend them in the wake of that.

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            Torrents only work if at least one side has port forwarding enabled. And you don’t want to rely on other people having their ports open. In order to ensure you can actually connect to a seeder/peer, it’s best practice to enable port forwarding on your end.

            The issue with this is that many VPN providers have stopped offering port forwarding services, because kiddy diddlers figured out a way to use port forwarding to privately share CSAM. So it has become difficult to torrent with a VPN, because pedos somehow manage to ruin everything.

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              I may have to look into a new VPN provider. What provider would you recommend that isn’t sus? Thank you!

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                That’s part of the issue; All of the “best” VPNs have stopped offering port forwarding. Mullvad and Proton are the gold standard for VPNs, but neither offer port forwarding. Private Internet Access still offers it, but they were bought out by a marketing company that was caught sneaking adware into their programs. PIA’s service is still good, but it relies on you trusting an ad company with your internet traffic. They claim to not save any logs or use your data, but they’ve also been found to be liars in the past with that adware scandal.

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        Yup, try out ProtonVPN’s free tier.

        I prefer Mullvad, though ProtonVPN is competitive if you get one of their longer-term offers ($5/month). Mullvad is always $5/month, has plenty of servers, and IMO is the best for privacy (you can literally pay by mailing cash or w/ Monero and other cryptocurrencies as well). If you want to support Mozilla, you can buy Mozilla VPN, which is just rebranded Mullvad (though you’ll need a yearly subscription to match Mullvad’s regular cost).

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    Oh… That’s not actually how you’d phrase that?

    Fuck you, Ars?

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    Not advocating for universal access to porn or anything but is there any linkage or study showing a detrimental affect of porn on kids? A few things I’ll say from my own experiences. I first saw porn around 10 years old and I thought it was gross and didn’t have any desire to search for more. Later, in my early teens, I did search out porn but only softcore, because I thought vaginas were ugly. I did get a porn obsession for a long time and it did negatively impact at least one relationship, but that could’ve gone differently if my girlfriend was into any kind of porn (some girls are).

    It’s a vice and can easily become addictive but I could also see video games filling the same role.

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      Please look over yourbrainonporn.com.

      There is plenty of evidence that some people struggle with compulsory sex disorder. Porn addiction can lead to erectile dysfunction. Many on the internet won’t admit it and will down vote any discussion of the topic for some reason.

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        While it’s probably true that there are people who might struggle with porn, there are plenty of people who struggle with addictions of all kinds - alcohol, gambling, opiates, etc.

        But there are certainly valid questions that come up with stuff like this:

        • Is the government’s place to enforce a mandatory 18yr age requirement to view porn?
        • If so, what kinds of unintended ramifications are possible from imposing such a requirement? I can think of quite a few, but I’m curious what others think.
        • Could it be argued that this is an attempt to legislate morality or impose censorship?

        I think that these are fair questions and perhaps the meat and potatoes of the issue lies a bit deeper than anyone’s sole opinion on whether porn is “bad for you” or not.

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          I wholeheartedly agree with you. I did not say whether it should be banned or made difficult to find - I was pointing out the evidence that is out there that it is a problem for some people.

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            It is so much easier to have nuanced discussions on Lemmy. You are correct I realize now you were just responding to poster above you

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        I get ads on the radio, TV, and billboards for ED, and I wonder how many of them are directly related to porn. I’m not a scientist, but I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of people “suffering” just prefer porn to their SO on some level (maybe subconsciously).

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        Couldn’t get to the site and I’m curious. What is the incidence of compulsory sex disorder and erectile dysfuntion caused by porn? Are there any known predispositions?

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          I’m not an expert on the topic and don’t claim to be. I only first learned about it by watching a youtube series by Terry Crews called “Dirty Little Secret” where he admits he had this problem and how it affected his marriage.

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        Porn addiction can lead to erectile dysfunction

        a ton of stuff just started to make sense

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          My understanding is that it’s not necessarily porn addiction that causes this, but a particular style of masturbation that some people refer to as “death grip”. Source: a friend of mine who used to masturbate every night before bed to sleep better, but this began causing issues with his partner due to ED. He eventually solved it by using a different grip while masturbating.

          In short, if you feel like you’ve come away from this conversation with things to reflect on, then that’s great and I’m glad about that. However, “porn addiction”, as a term, describes a whole bundle of stuff that is still pretty poorly understood, because it can be hard to discern between symptoms and causes

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      I see porn similarly to alcohol, most people are fine with it in moderation, but many struggle with addiction. I don’t think it’s appropriate for kids, but I also think it’s none of the government’s business and should be managed by parents, because the alternative opens the door to a huge risk for doxxing responsible consumers.

      And yeah, video games are similar as well, many are okay with it, and many struggle with addiction, which unfortunately seems to have a much higher chance of draining your bank account than a porn addiction. That said, I don’t think it’s the government’s business, and parents should manage this for their kids.

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      The only thing wrong with porn is the moral judgement some associate with it.

      Just because you think porn is immoral does not make it true.

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        I worked in the porn industry for almost a decade. I see no moral issues with it, but there is growing evidence that porn addiction is a problem for many.

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          You are incorrect.

          If this were true then folks who looked at more porn would be more likely to be addicted.

          The number one predictor of porn addiction is religious affiliation, not porn use.

          What you are saying is simply not true.

          The problem is their moral beliefs are not in sync with their thoughts and desires, which causes guilt etc.

          Scientists have reached consensus that porn addiction is not a thing.

          What needs to be treated instead of porn addiction is the moral beliefs of the individual which are not in agreement with their porn use, which can cause stress anxiety and real health issues.

          But the issue is the persons moral beliefs, not the porn use.

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            I’d like to see what study you based your argument on, because I’ve done enough reading that what you’re saying doesn’t ring any bells. I’m an atheist and as mentioned previously worked in the porn industry for several years.

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        I’m asking is the response proportional to the damage? I never said I thought it wasn’t harmful or that we shouldn’t regulate access. Obviously many people are upset with the adult verification methods that these states are using, but is this a necessary evil or virtue signaling? All we know is that kids shouldn’t view porn, so how far does that get taken? All the way to a complete ban? What’s the measure of success even?

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          ID checks to do porn have basically zero effect on minors’ ability to view porn.

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            Exactly. So I don’t imagine lawmakers will quit there. And my previous posts weren’t to say, “It’s only crack. How bad can it be?” But more to say, “Let’s define the problem before we try to fix it.” Stating the problem as, “Kids are looking at porn,” is oversimplifying and misses the cause and effect.

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      You are using a device capable of finding the information you so desire. Instead you decided to contribute you whataboutism.

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      Toes are much more dirtier than anything else on your body. Yet you love to wear sandals and to take off your shoes at home.