• Johnnyvibrant@discuss.tchncs.de
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    3 months ago

    Can you imagine not having the constant traffic noise played into your ears like tinnitus, being able to maybe actually breathe the oxygen nature provides. That’s probably gonna be what it will be like. But still, ev are just a stop gap, more privately owned cars isn’t the solution in my humble opinion, it is a start towards it.

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      3 months ago

      Totally with you, but tire dust is one of the major pollution particles from cars, maybe even the worst AFAIK. That, sadly will not go away but it is still leagues more desireable to have everything on electric than fossil fuel. Can’t have perfect stop good enough.

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        3 months ago

        Yep, tire pollution is even worse with EVs due to their weight. But overall it’s still much better as you said.

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          3 months ago

          It would help if cars went back to a reasonable size and not the absurdly large monstrosities that dominate the market today.

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            3 months ago

            It’s even hard to find an EV sedan. There are like 3 models under $70k. Everyone wants to make SUVs instead.

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              3 months ago

              That’s the real kicker. Gets especially hard if you don’t want a Tesla.

              Many of the conservatives who cite heaviness of EVs as a problem didn’t say shit as ICE cars got heavier and they bought F150s to go to Walmart.

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              3 months ago

              There’s no reason to think that will last. The kwh/kg of batteries improves by 5-8% per year, and we’ve been in the higher end of that range the last few years. Meanwhile, EVs are about 30% heavier. It will take a few years of improvement to make up that gap, but there’s every reason to expect this trend to continue.

              Also, it takes a few years for new batteries to find their way into existing models. 1.08^4 = 1.36, which means improvements in batteries since 2020 could have made up this gap already.

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                3 months ago

                Yes, sure, batteries are evolving and there are solid state batteries on horizon, though probably very expensive initially. There is also a concept of getting energy wirelessly from road, which could further reduce battery sizes. I’m sure the future is bright.

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            3 months ago

            Perhaps they compare, but assuming small batteries and consequently small range. Which might still be fine for shopping and shorter trips I guess. And I agree that oversized EVs is all the rage these days

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      3 months ago

      The tire noise EVs make is about the same as an ICE car at about 50 kph (30 mph) so it doesn’t make much difference on busy roads. It does make a huge difference in slow traffic.

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      3 months ago

      The traffic noise will stay the same, from tires, honking and some fake engine noise they’ll mandate for pedestrian safety.
      Do yourself a favor and spend some time in an area without cars. It’s amazing what it does to your mental health.

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      3 months ago

      About noise, above 30km/h electric cars are as noisy as gas powered one.

      It’s better but not the panacea either.

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        3 months ago

        Solution: 30km/h speed limit in cities, which is a good idea anyway for safety reasons.

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          3 months ago

          Yes, it’s better for safety and health reason.

          Plus 30km/h is in the speed range of bikes, so it become much more accessible to bike around in the city and more people start to do it.