• lily33@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      17
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Since I don’t think this analogy works, you shouldn’t stop there, but actually explain how the world would look like if everyone had access to AI technology (advanced enough to be comparable to a nuke), vs how it would look like if only a small elite had access to it.

      • Touching_Grass@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        We could all do our taxes for free. Fix grammatical errors. Have a pocket legal, medical advice. A niche hobby advisor. Pocket professor. A form completion tool. All in one assistant especially for people who might not know how to navigate a lot of tasks in life. Or we could ban it because I fear maybe someone will use it to make memes. Lots of lazy articles convinced me the AI sky is falling

      • photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        1 year ago

        Okay, well, if everyone had access to an AGI, anyone could design and distribute a pathogen that could wipe out a significant portion of the population. Then again, you’d have the collective force of everyone else’s AI countering that plot.

        I think that putting that kind of power into the hands of everyone shouldnt be done lightly.

        • Hanabie@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          8
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          There are papers online on how to design viruses. Now to get funding for a lab and staff, because this is nothing like Breaking Bad.

        • Rayspekt@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          1 year ago

          You still can’t manufacture it. Your comparision with nukes is actually a good example: The basic knowledge how a nuke works is out there, yet most people struggle in refining weapon-grade plutonium.

          Knowledge is only one part in doing something.

        • Honytawk@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          Since when does AI translate to being able to create bacteria and stuff?

          If having the information on how to do so was enough to create pathogens, we should already have been wiped out because of books and libraries.

          • photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago

            You can’t type “How do I make a pathogen to wipe out a city” into a book. A sufficiently advanced and aligned AI will, however, answer that question with a detailed list of production steps, resource requirements and timeline.

            • HubertManne@kbin.social
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              this requires special materials like enzymes and such. It would much easier to restrict access to those. Now true this godlike ai could go back to show you how to make all the base stuff but you need equipment for this like centrifuges and you will need special media. Its like the ai telling you how to make a nuke really. Yeah it could star you off with bronze age metal smithing and you could work your way up to the modern materials you would need but realistically you won’t be able to do it (assuming again you restrict certain materials)

        • lily33@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          I would say the risk of having AI be limited to the ruling elite is worse, though - because there wouldn’t be everyone else’s AI to counter them.

          And if AI is limited to a few, those few WILL become the new ruling elite.

          • Touching_Grass@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            6
            ·
            1 year ago

            And people would be less likely to identify what AI can and can’t do if we convince ourselves to limit our access to it.

            • subignition@kbin.social
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              People are already incompetent enough at this when there’s a disclaimer in front of their faces warning about gpt.

              We’re seeing responses even in this thread conflating AGI with LLMs. People at large are too fucking stupid to be trusted with this kind of thing

        • serratur@lemmy.wtf
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          You’re just gonna print the pathogens with the pathogen printer? You understand that getting the information doesn’t mean you’re able to produce it.

          • Touching_Grass@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            1 year ago

            I need an article on how a 3d printer can be used to print an underground chemistry lab to produce these weapons grade pathogens

            • testfactor@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              I know how to build a barn. Doesn’t mean I can do it by myself with no tools or materials.

              Turns out that building and operating a lab that can churn out bespoke pathogens is actually even more difficult and expensive than that.

        • Kichae@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          Let’s assume your hypothetical here isnt bonkers: How, exactly, do you propose limiting people’s access to linear algebra?

    • Hanabie@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      1 year ago

      You can google how to make a nuke. Of course, you’re gonna get your hands on the plutonium, which is something even countries struggle with.

      • Rayspekt@kbin.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Then I’ll ask AI how to obtain plutonium, checkmate.

        But by that point I might just ask the all-knowing AI how I can achieve what I want to with the nuke and cut out the radioactive middle man. Unless the AI tells me to build a nuke, then it’s nuke time anyway.

        • Hanabie@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          The point I was trying to make is, all the information about viruses and nuclear bombs are already readily available. AI doing the googling for you will not have an actual impact, especially considering what else you’ll need to make it all work.

          I would assume you get the fear of AI from the news media. Understandable, they have a vested interest in keeping you afraid. AI is gonna steal their ad revenue, when you won’t have to visit their shitty websites anymore.