Hello, making this post to get some honest, and technical opinions about GrapheneOS. Please do not be bother by this question. No drama here pls 🙏. I’ve heard that there is some of the google code into the “sandbox” feature. Say your opinion below! 👇👇

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    There’s a lot of false information in your statements, GrapheneOS is not spyware, and it does a better job at degoogling than any other ROM mentioned in this thread, the only one that comes close is DivestOS, and no eOS is NOT like Qubes…

    GOS wanted to reduce the attack surface as much as possible so they removed all the unecessary Bloat, it doesn’t even ship with wallpapers !!

    This list is not exhaustive and covers a tiny bit of the differences between these custom ROMs but it’s a good place to start

    https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm

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      What I meant by a “middleground” is that GOS has gapps, even though they are sandboxed. There is no way it can be more degoogled than LOS or any other fully vanilla ROM that’s actually degoogled.

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        That’s also not accurate, GOS comes fully degoogled, and doesn’t include any GAPPS or Google Play services, you have to install them yourself if you want compatibility with Google Apps or some banking apps

        even though they are sandboxed. There is no way it can be more degoogled than LOS

        That’s just false, even LOS isn’t fully degoogled and it still connects to Google in the background for necessary connectivity checks ( e.g. DNS ) and Esim activation for example

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          Oh ok then. If it has a vanilla version then it is degoogled and can be more degoogled than LOS. What I meant was if GOS was microg only, it couldn’t be as degoogled as LOS because LOS is vanilla. Still it’s a shame that LOS can’t find a better supporter than Google.

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            it couldn’t be as degoogled as LOS because LOS is vanilla

            This is about to change since LOS are about to include MicroG by default in future releases… Or so I heard from some Mastodon users who shared screenshots about an LOS update that installed MicroG

            GOS is private and secure more than any other ROM, but once you install the Unprivileged play store you lose some of that privacy while retaining security, MicroG is private but not as secure

            Still it’s a shame that LOS can’t find a better supporter than Google

            Wdym?

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              This is about to change since LOS are about to include MicroG by default in future releases

              Should I bet all my savings this isn’t gonna happen? Just don’t trust unverified rumors and never ever spread them as the truth.

              more than any other ROM

              ROMs without network support.

              Wdym?

              I believe LOS uses Google stuff because they get money for doing it, especially for making it the default search engine in the default browser.

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                never ever spread them as the truth.

                How did you know it’s not the truth…because I implied it wasn’t… and I don’t see it as something that couldn’t happen, people asked for MicroG support for years…

                ROMs without network support.

                I’m not a huge fan of trolling

                because they get money for doing it,

                I can tell you no Open source ROM gets funds by Google, unless if it’s a program… For example GOS received many rewards for discovering vulnerabilities in AOSP

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                  How did you know it’s not the truth…because I implied it wasn’t… and I don’t see it as something that couldn’t happen, people asked for MicroG support for years…

                  Sorry but this sounds like you’re defending yourself because you know you spread rumors or maybe even complete misinformation.

                  I’m not a huge fan of trolling

                  There was no trolling. You said it’s the best ROM for security. I told you of a better one. Saying “best ROM for security” was more of an act of trolling than my response.

                  I can tell you no Open source ROM gets funds by Google, unless if it’s a program…

                  Idk. I heard that Lineage receives money from Google so I said that but, in contrary to you, I didn’t say that I’m sure of it. I just said “I believe it’s the case”.