All smartphones, including iPhones, must have replaceable batteries by 2027 in the EU::undefined

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    1 year ago

    My current device and the two before that all have had removable batteries. I’ve always thought built in batteries are stupid and it’s nice to finally notice that other people agree. Hopefully they next mandate that it has to be able to be taken apart with a screwdriver and spare parts must be able to be purchased straight from the manufacturer.

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      1 year ago

      Ya the only reason I get new phones is because the battery gets too weak. I could easily keep the same device for 5+ years if I could swap batteries

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        1 year ago

        The only reason I get new phones is cos OS updates stop flowing. That happens way before I notice any battery degradation. This law solves nothing.

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          1 year ago

          I’m an android guy but you can solve that problem by going iPhone if so inclined

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              1 year ago

              Samsung and Google support their current generation phones for five years. Apple supports theirs for seven years from when they’re last sold.

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              I’m not sure but a lot longer than android

          • ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world
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            1 year ago

            Yes. $15 and an hour. You can bring in your own battery or pay ~$60 USD for an official one. It’s all very easy.

            This law won’t change shit. People are still going to dump their phone every 2 year.

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      Hopefully they next mandate that it has to be able to be taken apart with a screwdriver

      It does include that, mostly. It says that any tools that aren’t commonly available without proprietary rights or restrictions (i.e. screwdrivers) have to be provided by the manufacturers free of charge

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      1 year ago

      I prefer ip68 to easily accessible battery. I’ll need to change my battery maybe once every 3 years, but I need to know it can handle moisture far more often than that.

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        I prefer ip68 to easily accessible battery

        You can have both. My Galaxy XCover 6Pro is ip68 rated.

        The another benefit with removable batteries is that if you have two you can go from 0 to 100% charge in about a minute.

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          1 year ago

          This is why I want replaceable batteries in small EVs like bikes and such, too.

          And why I have thought for a while that it would be nice to have maybe 30% or so of electric car batteries be replacable with a moderately large rack in the “frunk” or trunk. But that’s just me.

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            1 year ago

            Most of the ebikes and motor scooters I’ve seen have removable batteries. Gogoro in India even has a battery swapping network for their scooters.

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              Gogoro’s existence is kinda bittersweet, it shows that it’s possible, but that companies aren’t willing to standardize and cooperate to make it the status quo and actually possible to build swap stations for globally, of even across just Europe.

              Ideally I’d want to see a plan where an e-bike or electric kickscooter takes one or two, and motorcycles take a few more. Idk if you could make batteries in that form-factor and put 12 or so into a car to gain enough miles to make a difference. Perhaps eventually, if we get the energy density gains we’re hoping for.

              Car-wise, I have no expectation that the industry will shift towards low weight and drag like Aptera is pushing for, so I don’t expect efficiency gains that way.

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            1 year ago

            This isn’t a replacement, but I have said for years now that someone needs to market a rentable tow-behind or rooftop battery sort of like U-Hauls for extra capacity needed for longer trips.

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              1 year ago

              People have tried it. The extra drag of a trailer or roof box consumes most of the extra energy that they carry.

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        I prefer ip68 to easily accessible battery.

        All it needs is that little rubber band, and you have to handle it carefully when closing the lid.

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        Psst those Brands are not your friends and might lie about their reasons to make batteries non-removable.

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        1 year ago

        Any moderately well built phone won’t die just because you took it out in the rain.

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        1 year ago

        I have a handheld marine vhf radio with a removable battery that I can throw in the ocean and it will work and continue to work for days. Don’t believe the bs the manufacturers tell you.