Alright, it’s true… I leave the basement sometimes for food and bush light.

Elect clowns, get a circus.

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    Most people know some broad stuff and understand the basic issue. When you start getting granular with just how bad it all really is, you find that most people don’t do that. It takes time and it’s a massive bummer, so I get it.

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    I think this over estimates how knowledgeable people are about climate change and over estimates how much people care.

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        Oh I’m sure people answer that way when asked in a survey, but we all know people typically vastly overestimate their knowledge of it.

        And people don’t actually care. They may say they do because they’re expected to care, but they don’t vote for climate policies, they don’t go to protests, they don’t invest in companies that provide solutions to climate change, they don’t make minor lifestyle changes for the sake of mitigation.

        Like from personal experience my sister would probably answer that survey to say she is knowledgeable and cares about it personally. But when I talk to her about how bad climate change already is, and how changes are going to compound on themselves and that current predictions say we will suffer massive crop failures by the 2040s that will result in global famines, she just brishes it off as being too serious and “they’ll do something before that happens” or trying to convince her to go 1 day a week without eating meat, or to properly recycle things, or take the train that stops 5 mjns walk from her house instead of driving, all completely fruitless, because just like 99% of the population, she just cares about her own convenience. And she’s not a bad person, by any means, she’s one of the more socially conscious people I know.

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    What, wait, no; yes, it’s falling apart. Why would you want to prevent that? I don’t want it fixed; I just wanna help others survive while it crumbles to dust around us.

    If you don’t let this society die, how will we build the new one??

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      By working to make changes within the current structure, generally yielding faster results and far less cost in human lives.

      There’s no magical “erase history and start completely fresh” button, even if society crumbles.

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        I want to have a piece of media with a “start fresh” villain who then has it pointed out to him that “starting fresh” means with far fewer resources and leeway available than if he had worked with society’s existing, faulty systems.

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      The issue with allowing it to simply crumble away is that the last people to die will be the ones exploiting the system, as they have the resources and the power to stay alive the longest. If you want the people who would rebuild society into one that is better than what we already have to still be around when all is said and done, we need to tear it down ourselves.

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        Yeah, I have a no-basis-in-fact conspiracy theory that all the royalty we have in the world, are just the rich folk that managed to survive the last collapse. They come out ahead of everyone else and make up all these reasons about being “ordained by God” or whatever to justify their existence, and the peasants just lap that shit up.

        The same thing will happen if our current society collapses, we’ll come out the other side with God-Emperors named Bezos, Zuckerberg, X Æ A-12 Musk, Gates, and Brin, each with their own little fiefdoms to rule over or religions created in their images.