TaldenNZ

“eliminate”… They’re really making full use of dropping the “don’t be evil” clause aren’t they.

Oops. Just imagine the karma I would have lost, were I still on Reddit…

Most people are still using Java 8 (including android)…

Surveys don’t seem to back this up any more… Yes there’s a lot of Java 8 code. But more and more of it is maintenance rather than new development. Respondents of surveys that are able to list the versions they use in production (vs ‘pick one’) have indicated that for many teams with exposure to Java 8, they also have newer versions in production - showing that Java 8 is increasingly about maintenance than ongoing development (with the blocks to moving forward being a mix economic and technical factors).

The most dominant frameworks in the industry are ending their support for Java 8 - so not too far down the track, staying on Java 8 will mean that while you can pay for platform support, framework support is going to disappear anyway.

…we are currently at ~java 20.

Yes Java 20 is the current release, with Oracle’s LTS being Java 17 (the previous ones being 17, 11 and 8 - with 8 having the largest paid support window).

Java 21 is out in a couple of weeks and will become the new Oracle LTS (other vendors and frameworks tend to align on this LTS designation so it continues to be important).

Here in NZ, we have a sub-handful of places where 110 is allowed, the rest is mostly 100 with more and reduced to 80, 70, 60 or 50 (in places that used to be 100).

To be fair, a great deal of our roadway is not up to safe use at 100 (though I do disagree with where that dividing line is placed).

Unfortunately I think that reducing the limits on unsafe surfaces and roading layout is now seen as a permanent solution. Any mitigation mechanism like that should be coupled with at some publicly visible prioritisation to resolve it.

Alas with our small population and relatively large roading network I doubt it’s getting better for us any time soon.

Hey you. Over the ditch. I feel your pain and hope you have better luck.

The mere thought hadn’t even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind…

(Credit to Douglas Adams for the quote… But I’m taking the credit for personally dodging the FB platform)

If I see any other clones show up I’ll add them to my private clone as remotes.

This way I can easily collate any updates they receive and, if they all start disappearing I’ll be able to re-publish it somewhere anonymously.

Hopefully that provides another tricky target for take-down whack-a-mole.