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Looks like same stuff they’re always accusing him of, here’s a video where he goes over most of it, if you care enough to watch it.
EDIT: Nice edit. I’ve never said either of those things but keep building strawmen and doing soft holocaust denial. W/e.
Sure, as far as I know you didn’t directly say those things and I’m sure that’s not what your actively thinking about in your head, I was being a bit hyperbolic. However that’s what your ideas lead to, you say:
Everyone needs to sit around a table and negotiate to end this. And that’s likely going to need to involve Ukraine giving up something and Russia giving up something, in order for both sides to walk away from this with some way to look like they won.
This is what I’m talking about. These kind of ideas are inherently pro-Russia because they would very likely result in Ukraine being forced into giving up a large amount of their territory to Russia and probably worse. Russia invaded without provocation and Ukraine is defending itself, why should they give up anything to Russia? Considering how well they’re defending themselves, I don’t know why they would.
You’ve probably already blocked me, but whatever.
Russia doesn’t want peace, if they wanted peace, they wouldn’t have invaded. Russia hasn’t engaged in any actual reasonable talks with Ukraine because they don’t want to, it’s that simple.
Calling it “nationalist bullshit” to not want your country to be invaded by a fascist oligarchy is actually insane, those “lines on a map” actually matter to the Ukrainian people who actually live there and whose lives will be destroyed living under Russian occupation, the Russian military has already committed countless war crimes and raped literal children in Ukraine. I gave you benefit of the doubt before, but your obviously just some Russian apologist tankie.
Any actual leftist would be able recognize that a fascist oligarchy invading a liberal democracy is bad a thing, actually.
Edit: Seriously though, In the real world, not some communist revolution fantasy you’ve made up in your head, borders do matter and peoples lives are massively effected by them. It’s completely delusional to believe that living under fascist Russian occupation won’t result in the suffering of Ukrainian people.