@gomp You mean, as seldom available as every apt install ever? https://superuser.com/a/990153

@gomp Why would you be taking the signature from the same website? Ever heard of PGP key servers?

@gomp try comparing it with apt install, not with downloading a .deb file from a random website - that is obviously also very insecure. But the main thing curl|sh will never have is verifying the signature of the downloaded file - what if the server got compromised, and someone simply replaced it. You want to make sure that it comes from the actual author (you still need to trust the author, but that’s a given, since you are running their code). Even a signed tarball is better than curl|sh.

@Sethayy cool, go ahead. But still nobody made that take, so … you are arguing with the wind.

@Sethayy nobody made that take…

@over_clox The lack of redistribution is what’s causing projects to disappear and die, vendor lock-in, walled gardens, bricked devices… you clearly have no idea what you are talking about

@over_clox Which means it’s not open-source, silly, because open-source explicitly means you can redistribute it.

@delirious_owl Oh wow, look at this guy, he just solved it all! Now we can finally put all the climate change worries behind. Thanks for saving the world.

@delirious_owl @__

If life gives you lemons, make lemonade. If you kitchen is on fire, grill sausages. If your crops are dying, eat dirt. I mean the positive attitude is nice, but it does break down a bit towards the end…

@delirious_owl @gigachad

I hope you are joking. That’s average. So 10m above sea level, but washed away twice per year by the more energetic storms and floods.

@jonuno graphs and numbers, but try to create your favorite solution and then see what it will cost: https://en-roads.climateinteractive.org/scenario.html?v=24.6.0

@ExtremeDullard Au contraire - if the information is public, you may say you just found it here.

@ExtremeDullard Can you share the name of the new open source tool you found? Spread the knowledge, make more people leave the proprietary litigious vendors.

And thanks for sharing your story.

@cbarrick How many clients exist for Zulip?

@makeasnek When I found out how easy it is to send Bitcoin on F-Droid, I started sending a couple of bucks each month to the apps I use. I wish donating was always this easy, more people would do it.

@FuckyWucky @corvus

If I have to choose between having a corrupt inefficient financial system with thousands of middlemen, vs this guy yelling at me his nonsense… I’m choosing this guy yelling at me.

@something_random_tho The pathfinding algorithm is in the client app (like Organic Maps) and the data are in openstreetmap. Different apps can find different paths and there is not much we can do about it, because changing the pathfinding algorithm could break it for many other places. That’s why I would rather modify the data, such as marking roads unsuitable for bikes, or making sure the nodes are properly connected, adding speed limits, road surface types… nudge the algo into the right path

@something_random_tho @lqwlxxxdxq

You should make an account on openstreetmap.org and modify the map to make it select a better route. You are part of the ecosystem of open-source software and crowd-sourced data.

@makeasnek @chris

I have a whole list in my bookmarks:
- everybody knows Tailscale (and Headscale)
- Slack Nebula
- NetBird
- NetMaker
- ZeroTier
- OpenZiti
- Wesher
- PineCone
- n2n
- weron
- innernet
- vpncloud
- tinc (the OG)

@ExtremeDullard You are too kind and thoughtful, they really don’t deserve you. A company is just a collection of the people who work there. Maybe the reason why they violated GPL in the first place is because Stu, Phil and Tom didn’t care about their work at all. The comments paint a picture of a toxic work environment, and again, that’s just the result of the people working there. Good people need to leave bad companies, it’s the only way to let the bad die without hurting the good.