A bit more context is important here. They aren’t E2EE, but they are stored encrypted. In the case of the person whose meta information was turned over, ProtonMail wasn’t forced to hand over the information right away, they were forced to collect it the next time that person accessed and used their email. That tells us that they didn’t store the information beforehand and could not access it without preparing to intercept it the next time their service was used.

Ultimately, though, if something like that’s a dealbreaker, it’s likely you’re doing something that would benefit from a more secure way of communicating than email.

Well, you don’t even need to provide an email or phone number when you sign up, so if you access the site via their onion address every time, they would have no information on you at all.

They gave meta information like IP to the government in Switzerland, where they are based, after the government forced them to with a court order. Not the encrypted mail, mind you, because they can’t do that, just the additional information they have on a user like email and IP.

Because of that, a lot of redditers on r/privacy think they spy on their users for the US government. It’s a stretch, yes, but you have to remember they take turns using the one brain they collectively have.

It might be being sold even with a VPN, since VPNs aren’t really a privacy product in and of themselves. They need to be combined with other practices to be effective in that regard.

For example, for social media like YouTube, I sandbox it inside a browser container, then blacklist any scripts from them anywhere else on the web using uBO. So javascript from Google can run inside the YouTube container, but if a page tries to load a Google script on another site, it never connects. Google can’t track me across the web, because the only site they ever see me on is YouTube, and not through my actual IP even then. And it probably goes without saying, but I use a throwaway Google account for YouTube. I make fun of Zios a lot online, so if I ever get banned, I can be back on YouTube in a couple minutes without there being any real consequences.

Oh, well if you don’t, people say you’re a bad person. Despite religion being the driving force behind most of the evil that’s plagued the human race, we give it a free pass because most people are too scared to live life without the promise of something coming after.

Pedophilia is pretty common in organized religion, so probably not much. It’s in both the Quran and Bible. Idk about the Hindu faith, but Gandhi used to sleep nude with young girls, including family members, to test whether they got him hard or not, and he’s still adored by millions.

I use containers on Firefox to sandbox YouTube, and then have a throwaway account that’s literally just for YouTube and nothing else. Everywhere else on the web, scripts from Google are blacklisted using uBO.

You can’t just ask that. Not without at least taking them out to a fancy dinner first. Maybe a little dancing.

Well, people aren’t sticking 4090s in their Samsung smart TVs, so idk that matters.

Before you claim 4k is the standard, you might wanna take a peak at the Steam hardware survey.

I don’t know anyone I game with that uses a 4k monitor. 1440p at your monitors max refresh rate is the favorite.

Yes, it was a whoosh. I’m not gonna say it’s a funny bit, but they’ve said in previous comments that it’s a bit.

🫣

Guys they’re doing a bit.

I would love that. The only person on earth less coherent than Trump. Imagine the memes we would get out of that.

OK, let’s check then.

You can usually sign up anonymously without giving an email address or phone number, although we may require human verification in some cases.

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I’ve signed up on Tor and the clearnet, and both times without providing an email address or phone number. Meaning if you keep running into that problem, it’s a sign that something you’re doing or have done is causing them to think you aren’t somebody that should be signing up without verification. Either way, the fact remains that most people aren’t having this issue.

That is your argument? “Time destroys all things”? Really?

Yeah, when you think about it, one day the sun will explode and all these email services that don’t require backup emails will shut down. You got me there, champ.

I just tried it on my phone literally thirty seconds ago, after reading your comment, without using Tor or a VPN. Verification was done with a captcha. No email required.

Only if you’re talking about torrents. Most visual media can be easily found on Usenet, and there’s no such thing as leeching.

The only thing I ever use torrents for anymore is books, because the mouse site is so good. Never have had problems finding TV shows or movies on Usenet.

They said any service gets shut down. I registered a ProtonMail account without email or phone number. Proton also does not cooperate with anyone but Swiss authorities. It is obviously still possible.

You can also register without one on cock.li, if you don’t mind them being edgy middle-aged teenagers.

You don’t have to have one, this is misinformation.