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it actually is, you just append the distrobox command before it

distrobox enter arch -- yay -Sy appname

If I was a newbie shopping around for a DE, I would probably be perusing websites like kde.org to get a feel for the visual style and features and such

If Microsoft had 3% market share on Steam, they probably would

I don’t know why it’s become a stigma that installing things on Linux is hard when Windows requires you to Google sketchy .exes and .msis because their app store is so trash. For 99% of packages on Linux you can just open the software manager and click install.

None of those commands install drivers on linux tho. What audio driver couldn’t you install?

Seems like a very rushed launch to try and meet the “Summer” deadline (which they still missed by a week of course). Valve didn’t even update Steam Rich Presence so it still says you are playing “CS:GO”. The store page doesn’t have the right video on it, there’s no special graphic in the store or anything and the game banner hasn’t been updated. Lots of cut corners. For some reason Valve has been going crazy lately, they also released the Dota compendium today, SteamOS 3.5 a week ago and SteamVR 2.0 just a few days ago. Makes sense they missed some stuff.

Technically I believe latest Ubuntu LTS and SteamOS (specifically on the Steam Deck) are the only officially supported distros for Steam

I think it’s closer to 45, might be a typo

They don’t need to be packaged at the time of creation anyway, they can be packaged right now. Distrobox makes this easy, like let’s say you need an application that only works on Ubuntu 18.04. It’s two commands:

distrobox create --image ubuntu:18.04 ubuntu

distrobox enter ubuntu -- sudo apt-get install _package_

Then to export the package to your desktop you can even do

distrobox enter ubuntu -- distrobox export --app _application_

Boom, you have an Ubuntu 18.04 application on an OS of your choosing. You can theoretically do this with any distro, distrobox can use any OCI images from docker-hub, quay.io, or any registry of your choice.

I mean not really, Appimage has been around since 2004, flatpak/docker for about a decade now. But at any rate I don’t see your point, the person I replied to said it’s hard to run old applications on Linux and I gave him solutions on how to do that. What does their age have to do with anything?

If it isn’t a Microsoft sanctioned solution, then multiple third party solutions exists that fix it.

That’s not how this works. If it’s not a Microsoft-sancioned solution, it literally cannot be fixed no matter how much effort you put in. You need an API to work with Windows. If Microsoft does not provide you with an API, you can’t do it. And even if you find a way to hack together something, you have zero guarantee an update won’t just come along and fuck it. Linux distros are open source, you can change quite literally any thing about them. That is what that person was talking about.

Appimage, Snap, Flatpak, Docker, Podman, Distrobox, Toolbox…

Trying to use proprietary drivers and NTFS on Linux is trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. People work hard to make it work and maybe it does with a little effort but the proprietary model and Linux distros just don’t mesh well together. If you make it a point to purchase hardware that has open source drivers and use open source software (and as a consumer, you probably should anyway), everything does just work. Obviously this may not suit your use case and Linux may just not be for you.

laughs in flatpak

You can’t just remove open source software, Proton will exist forever in some form with or without Valve

I don’t think there is any confusion about that

Not with windows you can’t, which is the OS the overwhelmingly large majority of people want to use.

Most people don’t replace SteamOS on their device so I don’t think that’s true. Plasma is a perfectly suitable replacement for Windows unless you really need access to Adobe products or something.

There’s more that work and work better on Windows than Linux than there are the other way around though.

True but It’s a number that is shrinking every day. We are down to about ~100 games at this point that explicitly cannot work? I play a lot of games and I can’t remember the last time I tried to play a game and it didn’t work because I was on Linux.

Windows plays every PC game in existence

There’s a surprising amount of older PC games that don’t work on Windows anymore, but work fine on Linux. I remember trying to play New Vegas a few years ago on Windows 10 and needing four separate mods just to get it to play properly, and even after all that it would still crash every 15-20 minutes. I’ve since played it all the way through on Fedora and SteamOS with zero tinkering and no crashes.

It also allows you to use the device as a pc replacement via displaying the screen on a tv/monitor

you can do this on steamos

I’ve tried upscaling with ESRGAN as well and it has similar problems. It messes with the original textures too much. For example, it made carpet look like a solid surface. Skin looks too smooth and shiny. That kind of thing.

I hate how AI upscaling looks and I really don’t get why everyone seems to be gaga over it. In addition to the artifacts and other weirdness it can introduce, it just looks generally like someone smeared vaseline over the picture to me.