Or they just get some storage bins. I find them to be highly effective. Allows me to load just the tools I need for a job so unloading and loading is very fast.
But it’s got a roof which makes placing 20 foot ladders or a ton of gravel in it very awkward. The fixed volume natural of it isn’t compatible with the kind of work I do. But maybe you, a person that doesn’t do my job, knows more about my situation than I do.
I did always wonder about the ladder thing. I see ladders on vans all the time, but it also seems inconvenient. Even as a taller guy, it looks like a reach. How do y’all do it, especially if you are on site alone? Are there racks with some sort of lifting mechanism?
Edit: nvm, someone already posted a picture of such a rack
I know you tried with the whole empathy thing but since the subject here is my needs for a truck saying I lack empathy for myself kinda falls flat.
Really, you are coming off as a sociopath that thinks they know better than everyone what is good for them. I know my needs better than you. For some trades a van is perfect. But for my jack of all trades a truck is a better choice. A small truck. Literally the kind of small truck that doesn’t get made in America anymore. Modern trucks are too big to actually be useful.
The bed height is too tall to be comfortable. One of the other things happening on larger trucks is the bed length keeps getting shorter. A standard 8-ft. Long boards stick too far out the back end and we’ve reduced overall carrying capacity over previous generation small trucks. And by sticks too far out I mean way outside the bed. Drywall will break under those conditions. Do an image search for “Ford Maverick plywood” And you will see the potential danger here.
Edit, pretty much had to retype the whole thing because voice to text had badly messed it up and I didn’t realize that at the time of posting
I don’t like any of the new trucks. A 20-year-old small truck like a ranger or S series is a better choice.
I need someone to sell a 1-ton capacity truck with an 8-ft bed where the top of the bed is no more than 3 and 1/2 ft tall. The truck needs to exist but the understanding that it will be abused and so a lot of fancy features that will break won’t be included. Stereo and HVAC should basically be the only internal features. They keep cramming more and more features into trucks to sell them for more and more money instead of building trucks that are built for actual work.
Get a fucking dump truck or something to deliver gravel, putting gravel in the bed of a pickup is probably the stupidest excuse to own one I have ever heard. Loading it would be a batch unloading it would be even worse, and you typically need a fuck lot more gravel than what a pickup can carry.
As a jack of all trades, I can’t afford a dedicated piece of machinery like that. 60,000 on the low end for a dump truck plus the insurance and a place to park it. That’s not a reasonable expense.
I need general purpose, vehicles and tools.
Pay the company you buy the fucking dirt and gravel from you idiot. Jesus, you can even pass that cost off to your customers and they will happily eat it.
Do you know what the delivery fees are on a ton of gravel or topsoil? It costs more than the topsoil or gravel and the quantity is so small that some companies will refuse to deliver it. I literally live a kilometer from a place that sells topsoil, gravel, mulch etc. They refuse to deliver such a small quantity to me. Even though it’s seven driveways away.
And if said tradesperson doesn’t want their equipment to get wet in the rain they get a van instead.
Or they just get some storage bins. I find them to be highly effective. Allows me to load just the tools I need for a job so unloading and loading is very fast.
Think of a van as an enormous truck storage bin.
But it’s got a roof which makes placing 20 foot ladders or a ton of gravel in it very awkward. The fixed volume natural of it isn’t compatible with the kind of work I do. But maybe you, a person that doesn’t do my job, knows more about my situation than I do.
I did always wonder about the ladder thing. I see ladders on vans all the time, but it also seems inconvenient. Even as a taller guy, it looks like a reach. How do y’all do it, especially if you are on site alone? Are there racks with some sort of lifting mechanism?
Edit: nvm, someone already posted a picture of such a rack
The original point above was that vans are better than trucks if you frequently get rained upon. Maybe it’s you who is lacking empathy.
Oh, and this.
But what would I care if gravel gets wet?
I know you tried with the whole empathy thing but since the subject here is my needs for a truck saying I lack empathy for myself kinda falls flat.
Really, you are coming off as a sociopath that thinks they know better than everyone what is good for them. I know my needs better than you. For some trades a van is perfect. But for my jack of all trades a truck is a better choice. A small truck. Literally the kind of small truck that doesn’t get made in America anymore. Modern trucks are too big to actually be useful.
Maverick?
The bed height is too tall to be comfortable. One of the other things happening on larger trucks is the bed length keeps getting shorter. A standard 8-ft. Long boards stick too far out the back end and we’ve reduced overall carrying capacity over previous generation small trucks. And by sticks too far out I mean way outside the bed. Drywall will break under those conditions. Do an image search for “Ford Maverick plywood” And you will see the potential danger here.
Edit, pretty much had to retype the whole thing because voice to text had badly messed it up and I didn’t realize that at the time of posting
I’m not trying to tell you your job. The conversation expanded to other people’s needs for a van.
Great. I think we can leave this conversation alone now.
What would you replace your current truck with (ignoring second hand purchases)?
I don’t like any of the new trucks. A 20-year-old small truck like a ranger or S series is a better choice.
I need someone to sell a 1-ton capacity truck with an 8-ft bed where the top of the bed is no more than 3 and 1/2 ft tall. The truck needs to exist but the understanding that it will be abused and so a lot of fancy features that will break won’t be included. Stereo and HVAC should basically be the only internal features. They keep cramming more and more features into trucks to sell them for more and more money instead of building trucks that are built for actual work.
Get a fucking dump truck or something to deliver gravel, putting gravel in the bed of a pickup is probably the stupidest excuse to own one I have ever heard. Loading it would be a batch unloading it would be even worse, and you typically need a fuck lot more gravel than what a pickup can carry.
As a jack of all trades, I can’t afford a dedicated piece of machinery like that. 60,000 on the low end for a dump truck plus the insurance and a place to park it. That’s not a reasonable expense. I need general purpose, vehicles and tools.
Pay the company you buy the fucking dirt and gravel from you idiot. Jesus, you can even pass that cost off to your customers and they will happily eat it.
Do you know what the delivery fees are on a ton of gravel or topsoil? It costs more than the topsoil or gravel and the quantity is so small that some companies will refuse to deliver it. I literally live a kilometer from a place that sells topsoil, gravel, mulch etc. They refuse to deliver such a small quantity to me. Even though it’s seven driveways away.
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