On P2P payments from their FAQ: “While the payment appears to be directly between wallets, technically the operation is intermediated by the payment service provider which will typically be legally required to identify the recipient of the funds before allowing the transaction to complete.

How about, no? How about me paying €50 to my friend for fixing my bike doesn’t need to be intermediated, KYCed, and blocked if they don’t approve of it or know who the recipient is? How about it’s none of the government’s business how I split the bill at dinner with friends? This level of surveillance is madness, especially coming from an app that touts “privacy” as a feature.

GNU Taler is a trojan horse to enable CBDC adoption. They are the friendly face to an absolutely terrifying level of government control in our lives funded by the same government that tries every year to implement chat control. Imagine your least favourite political party gaining power. Now imagine they can see and control every transaction you make. No thanks.

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      Ah yes, must keep that war on drugs going, it’s totally worth sacrificing everyones’ privacy to make sure the Devil’s Cabbage is kept off the streets. Reefer Madness is epidemic.

      And human trafficking, yes, we can’t have people sending remittances to their families in destitute foreign countries so that they might be able to afford to immigrate too. So many poor foreigners trying to get in!

      Or maybe this is actually too complicated an issue to dismiss with a simple “if people have done nothing wrong they have nothing to hide?”

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        Let’s please not confuse human trafficking (you know, stuff akin to slave trade including sexual exploitation) to sending remittances.

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            They are either arguing in bad faith or so focused on ending all crime that they would remove free will and human autonomy in their pursuit.

            Not to mention even in the most restrictive frame of existence like prison, where everything is controlled and observed, the very problems they are willing to sell our freedom to fix… Flourish!

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      Also … That implies you don’t like freedom, democracy, feeding refugees, medical care for the exploited, and over throwing dictatorships.

      Everything has a trade-off, to only enable systems that have absolute central control, you invite central control of everything