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    I grew such hatred for this man in the past years I wish he would just ruin himself and not hear a delusional thing from him ever again.

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      I was thinking of that. By this guy I’d also the one that is associated with spaceX, Sterling, neuralink and Tesla.

      Even if he is only a marketer or a shill or just lucky or whatever; I recognize the fact that not everyone is that lucky or ‘in the right place at the right time’ that often. So there’s got to be something he is doing right.

      And that then leads me to wondering, how do you handle that? As a public figure, everything he fits is open to the world, but do you any I always make perfect decisions 100% of the times? And do we really expect anyone to make perfect decisions all the time?

      If him and bezos were thinking of always being right, they simply wouldn’t be where they are today. And then you can make the argument that maybe we would have been better off. But what’s to say there wouldn’t have been someone else?

      Sorry, didn’t mean to get all philosophical, but I am getting to ignoring billionaires shenanigans than trying to understand the reasoning. Just like I ignore the life of the other 99.9% of the world.

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        He did at least one thing right; He was born to a dad in South Africa who owned half an emerald mine.

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        I think what’s really coming through in recent times aided well by Musk, is how profoundly average these billionaire geniuses really are, despite their extraordinary lives.

        This wouldn’t be such a bad thing, after all, you or I aren’t typically judged in the same way for being just ordinary and it might even be comforting that they’re just people after all, but the problem is that we’ve geared up society in such a way where they’re basically king’s (and I choose Kings, not Queens deliberately).

        The positions they hold demand great people, even a good person will not suffice. If we’re to have these demi-gods profoundly influencing society they’d better be something special. In the past, there was an idea cultivated that royalty were divine representatives, in the modern context they create a similar myth of genius expertise that is manifest and evident because of their wealth, but sadly the reality appears to be that they’re special for being wealthy, not wealthy because they’re special.

        This doesn’t bode well in a society that allows billionaires to exist.

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        They have money to back them up…or to hide mistakes…throw money at a problem and it goes away…

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        Lol, I can assure you he’s not doing things right, and it’s all luck and a lot of willingness to be an asshole. The achievements come from the passionate engineers and scientists.

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        You’re delusional if you are equating Besos and Musk as CEOs. One built their company from the ground up by making judicious decisions. The other took emerald mine money from daddy and started buying shit.

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          Bezos did have events like his parents loaning him $300k early on, which isn’t like being handed $400 million but it’s an advantage not everyone has.

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            Exactly. And let’s not forget that the rich have stronger class solidarity. Bezos got a lot more than a $300k loan; he got the experience of a wealthy education which is primarily for the networking. He got access to his parents’ network as well.

            See also Bill Gates, who, in a bout of nepotism, used his mommy’s rich connections with IBM to secure Microsoft. People don’t understand that Microsoft made nothing of actual worth in their early days. They were middlemen, buying DOS from someone else and claiming it as their own.

            Like, oh, Tesla.

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        One possibility is that he’s good at taking credit for the achievements of engineers and scientists. But a more charitable possibility is just that domain expertise/ignorance are real. Musk might be really good at running manufacturing companies and just not have any clue about software or politics or condoms.

        A ton of hardware guys think software is trivially easy. Some of the worst people at personal finance are doctors. I’ve met a ton of other engineers who will proudly and ignorantly tell actual economists what they think causes inflation or recessions or whatever.

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        Disney’s CEO is being paid something like 530x the tegular employee. I would say yes. The expectation is that their decision making should be held to a much much much higher standard.

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        And do we really expect anyone to make perfect decisions all the time?

        It’s not about making perfect decisions all the time. Being a good businessman doesn’t automatically make you an expert in every area. You don’t suddenly become a genius politician or scientist, nor do you acquire the secret knowledge of how to end the war in Ukraine or censor Twitter, among other things. Both he and his fan base should recognize this because his words carry a lot of weight - that can be harmful.