Bot.

Also fb treats their advertisers like total crap

Excellent example choice lmao

You simply cannot have a project the size of firefox without paid employees, why do you think chromium, webkit and gecko are the only three webengines

CHIPS is a new way that cookies can work. The difference is that 3rd party cookies are opt-in for the browser, not opt-out, which is better

Of course, that’s why i said seemingly.

There isnt any perceptible performance impact

I turned down the delay, as for me the default was very long

Its seemingly 0 performance impact, even ony 8th gen thinkpad

no it isnt, its source available, there is a very big difference

they probably said that because its kinda ugly, but also follows the frutiger metro trend from a decade ago

No, it’s in Firefox 130. I know this because I use Firefox.

it’s in the “labs” section, its disingenuous to imply it isnt. I was wrong to say its only in nightly, but its still an opt-in experimental feature.

Also, truncating my arguments in quotes to make me look stupid and trying to exclude any facts you dont like is a dick move, and you know it, i’m not going to respond to the rest of this because you are clearly not arguing in good faith.

the comment is going “grrr ai” i was pointing out that the ai features currently in firefox (translation and alt-text) are local and privacy respecting. You cant just ignore things that dont fit your opinion.

second, that chatbot thing you’re crying about is OPT IN AND only in nightly, let you choose any chatbot available online, not just the ones they named, and on top of that it most likely will never make it into a non-nightly release, because theyve decided to make that kind of ai feature an extension instead.

Also, when i say that a model is open source, i am referring to the binary being downloadable and the model weights being freely available.

You clearly saw the word “ai” and decided that mozilla was as bad as google, without looking into it at all.

Im glad you decided to copy-paste an overly padded ream of text instead of forming your own opinion, but sure.

P.2 All ai models used in firefox currently are fully open source.

P.4 Those models are also ran completely locally. That linked blog refers to an OPT-IN experiment that lets you choose what model you want to use, including non-privacy respecting ones, but this is left up to the user.

P.10 The two ai features currently in firefox are alt-text generation for blind people and privacy-respecting page translation, i think youd have a hard time justifying why those arent useful.

How did they betray you or their mission?

Im pretty sure you’re seeing a pattern where there isnt one, your post is just controversial

Its still experimental, (in nightly), and a bit unpolished so id stick with the extensions for now

It varies from where you’re from, where i am nkbody uses it (or even knows it refers to) farting

You can embed bits of a website in other websites, that’s how 3rd party cookies exist

Yes and no, total cookie protection prevents cookies from loading from other sites, CHIPS is a new standard that makes it so that that is impossible* to begin with. (simpifying here but thats the idea)

*unless the browser allows it

Most new tv’s are smart tv’s by default, yo uave to pay extra for dumbness

Well, since you copy-pasted, i will likewise share my favorite take on thr situation.

After reading about the actual feature (more), this seems like an absolutely gigantic non-issue. Like most anti-Mozilla stories end up being.

The whole thing is an experimental feature intended to replace the current privacy nightmare that is cross-site tracking cookies.

As-implemented it’s a way for advertisers to figure out things like “How many people who went to our site and purchased this product saw this ad we placed on another site?”, but done in such a way that neither the website with the ad, nor the website with the product, nor Mozilla itself knows what any one specific user was doing.

The only thing I looked for but could not find an answer on one way or the other is if Mozilla is making any sort of profit from this system. I would guess no but actually have no idea.

There are definitely things that can be said about this feature, like “Fuck ad companies, it should be off by default” (my personal take), or “It’s a pointless feature that’s doomed to failure because it’ll never provide ad companies with information as valuable as tracking cookies, so it’ll never succeed in its goal to replace tracking cookies” (also my take). But the feature itself has virtually no privacy consequences whatsoever for anybody.

I’m absolutely convinced there’s a coordinated anti-Firefox astroturfing campaign going on lately.